Lesson 4.11

History, Foundations, and the Spirit of Motivational Interviewing

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Lesson Preparation

Before coming to your training, please do the following:

  • Read and study Chapter 2 (“The Spirit of Motivational Interviewing,” 14–24) of Motivational Interviewing: Helping People Change, 3rd ed. (2013) by William R. Miller and Stephen Rollnick.
  • Ponder your past experiences with Motivational Interviewing. Come to class prepared to share an experience.

Lesson Preview

The success of Motivational Interviewing (MI) has made it a much-sought skill by professionals across many industries. Deseret Industries strongly encourages its application to further associates’ progress and promote the best possible working relationships.

This lesson will address: (1) the origin, history, and success of Motivational Interviewing; (2) the four elements of the spirit of MI; and (3) ways to help you successfully apply the elements of the spirit of MI.


Identifying the Origin and History of Motivational Interviewing

From the following list, choose and complete one or more activities that best apply to your situation.

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Activity 1

Read “The Discovery of Motivational Interviewing,” found in the “Lesson Resources” section, Resource 1. Then, divide into small groups and discuss the following questions:

  • What led Dr. Miller to develop Motivational Interviewing?
  • According to Dr. Miller, what common attribute did effective therapists have?
  • How would you describe empathy?
  • In your experience, how does developing empathy for associates help you in your role as a job coach trainer, staff member, or missionary?
  • What positive outcomes have you seen from showing empathy to associates?
  • What have you done to develop empathy?
  • How can you further develop empathy for associates you work with, especially when they do not seem to make progress?

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Activity 2

Motivational Interviewing encompasses a set of skills, techniques, methods, and attitudes that help individuals make decisions and changes in their lives.

Individually, take a few minutes to ponder:

  • When did you first “discover” Motivational Interviewing?
  • What effect did this discovery have on you?
  • What positive experiences have you had when applying Motivational Interviewing?
  • Over time, what have you learned about Motivational Interviewing?
  • How would you describe the importance of Motivational Interviewing to a new job coach trainer, staff member, or missionary?

Divide into small groups, and share your thoughts on the questions above.

Then, read the following and discuss the questions below:

Miller and Rollnick explain that a key component of Motivational Interviewing is developing empathy—an appropriate heart and mind. They also state:

“In a very real sense, practicing MI over time teaches one this underlying spirit” (Miller and Rollnick, Motivational Interviewing, 35).

  • Think about your first days at work compared to your current situation. How has practicing Motivational Interviewing helped you understand and develop its underlying spirit?
  • What advice would you give someone regarding developing empathy in order to conduct Motivational Interviewing?

Recognizing the Spirit of Motivational Interviewing

There are four elements of Motivational Interviewing:

  1. 1 Partnership: MI is done for and with the associate instead of to and on them.
  2. 2 Acceptance: Openly accept what the associate brings.
    • a.Absolute Worth: Prize the potential and worth of every associate.
    • b.Accurate Empathy: Eagerly seek to understand the world through the associate’s eyes.
    • c.Autonomy Support: Honor and respect the associate’s right to self-direction.
    • d.Affirmation: Seek to acknowledge the associate’s strength and efforts.
  3. 3 Compassion: Actively promote the associate’s welfare and give priority to the associate’s needs.
  4. 4 Evocation: Recognize that the power to change lies within the individual; we help call it forth.

From the following list, choose and complete one or more activities that best apply to your situation.

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Activity 1

As a group, review the four elements of Motivational Interviewing listed above. Discuss the importance of each of them and how they each relate to your work with associates.

Then, read 2 Corinthians 3:6 and the following quote:

“When we began teaching MI in the 1980s we tended to focus on technique, on how we do it. Over time we found, however, that something important was missing. As we watched trainees practicing MI, it was as though we had taught them the words but not the music. What had we failed to convey? This is when we began writing about the underlying spirit of MI, its mind-set and heart-set” (Miller and Rollnick, Motivational Interviewing, 26).

As a group, discuss:

  • Why is it crucial to understand and keep the spirit of Motivational Interviewing?
  • What can result from conducting Motivational Interviewing without the proper spirit?
  • What can result from conducting Motivational Interviewing with the proper spirit?

Individually, take a minute to ponder:

  • Are there any associates with whom I am not keeping the spirit of Motivational Interviewing?
  • What can I do to make sure I keep the spirit of Motivational Interviewing as I work with each associate?

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Activity 2

Divide into four groups. Each group will discuss one of the four elements of Motivational Interviewing based on the following guidelines:

  • Define this element.
  • Identify the difference between using this element and other traditional methods to help people change.
  • Explain its role and importance in Motivational Interviewing.
  • Explain its importance for you in your current position.
  • Explain its importance for associates. Share specific instances from your experience when a lack of this element has impacted (or is impacting) your effectiveness as a job coach trainer.
  • Explain why this element is such a vital piece of the spirit of MI.

Regroup with all attendees. Divide the board into four parts. Each group will write the element discussed and its definition, then share key points of the discussion with the whole class.

Individually, take a minute to ponder:

  • Have I shown all elements of the spirit of MI with associates this week?
  • What particular element of the spirit of MI should I further develop?

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Activity 3

The facilitator will give each learner a printout with a song’s lyrics. As a group, try to read the lyrics at the same rhythm.

The facilitator will then play the song for the group. Follow the lyrics as you listen to the song.

Discuss the following as a group:

  • How did having music instead of only lyrics influence the way in which you experienced the song?
  • How is music key in setting the tone for a song’s lyrics, or message?

Read the following:

Miller and Rollnick use the metaphor of a song to describe the spirit of Motivational Interviewing. Song lyrics could be like the content of an MI session (strategies such as OARS and change talk). The song’s structure, such as the chorus or key changes, might be MI principles that shape the form of the song.

But it is the melody that creates the music; this is the spirit of Motivational Interviewing. Melody determines the mood of the song and underscores the lyrics. Melody is what we tap our feet and hands to, even when we don’t know the lyrics. This “Melody” is what we bring to encounters with clients, while still recognizing that the other elements are important. (In David B. Rosengren, Building Motivational Interviewing Skills: A Practitioner Workbook [2009], 13.)

As a group, discuss:

  • Why is it so important to have the spirit of MI when conducting interviews?
  • How does having the spirit of MI set the tone for appropriate and effective conversations with associates?

Individually, answer the following questions in your learner’s journal:

  • What “melody” are you bringing to your encounters with your associates?
  • What can you do to better “tune” your approach to Motivational Interviewing?

Applying the Spirit of Motivational Interviewing

From the following list, choose and complete one or more activities that best apply to your situation.

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Activity 1

As a group, identify situations in which a job coach trainer, staff member, or missionary could apply Motivational Interviewing techniques. List these situations on the board. Divide into four groups. Each group will be assigned one of the four elements of the spirit of MI (listed in the previous section under “Recognizing the Spirit of Motivational Interviewing”).

Each group should perform two role-plays, if possible with different people in each role-play. One of the role-plays will show a situation with the assigned element missing; the other one will show the effective application of the assigned element. For example, if the group has been assigned the element of Partnership, the first role-play could show how a job coach trainer tells the associate what, when, and how to change; and the other role-play could show how a job coach trainer truly works as the associate’s partner to help him or her to change.

If time allows, do all role-plays. As a group, compare and contrast each pair of role-plays, and add anything you find helpful regarding the spirit of MI.

Then, individually ponder:

  • How can I improve in at least one of the four elements of the spirit of Motivational Interviewing?

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Activity 2

Answer the following questions in your learner’s journal:

  • Which of my associates do I have a good partnership with?
  • Which of my associates do I perhaps not have a good partnership with?
  • Which of my associates have I accepted fully?
  • Which of my associates have I perhaps not accepted fully?
  • Which of my associates have I shown considerable compassion to?
  • Which of my associates have I perhaps not shown as much compassion to?
  • Which of my associates have I helped to bring out their power to change?
  • Which of my associates have I perhaps not helped to bring out their power to change?

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Activity 3

Individually, take time to ponder which of the four elements of the spirit of Motivational Interviewing you would like to work on. Then, work with a partner to share your concerns, discuss, and practice how to improve on that particular element. Feel free to ask pertinent questions and be open to receiving feedback. Do the same for your partner, and be as helpful as you can when giving feedback and counsel.

After you have practiced and discussed how to improve on an element of the spirit of MI, those of you who would like to can share what you have learned with the rest of the group.

Finally, take a minute to write in your learner's journal two to three things you would like to do to internalize this element of MI whenever you work with associates.

Ponder and Plan

“What Lack I Yet?”

Seek to identify a personal or business gap or need.

Spend a few minutes silently pondering what you've discussed during this lesson. Listen as the Holy Ghost helps you identify areas where you can improve. Record your impressions in your learner's journal under the question “What Lack I Yet?”

“What Must I Do?”

Seek ways to close the gap or develop the required talent(s) to meet the need.

With the guidance of the Spirit, create your plan of how you will improve and close the gap(s) you have identified. You may use one or more of the exercises below, your own strategy, or a combination of both. Record this plan in your learner's journal under “What Must I Do?”

  • Have a development counselor or manager sit in on a development plan discussion you hold with an associate, and ask for feedback on how well you demonstrated the spirit of Motivational Interviewing.
  • Which of the four elements of the spirit of MI comes most naturally to you? Which one comes least naturally to you? Make a goal to work on one element of the spirit of MI this next week.

After a few minutes, those who are comfortable doing so can share their impressions with the group.

“Therefore, What?”

Seek understanding, and then share what you learned.

During the week, focus on implementing the plan you created. Record your impressions or lessons learned in your learner's journal under “Therefore, What?” You will be given time at the beginning of next week's lesson to share your experience with the group.

“Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.”

2 Corinthians 3:6

Lesson Resources

Resource 1

The Discovery of Motivational Interviewing

William Miller knew nothing about alcoholism as an intern at the VA hospital in Milwaukee, but he listened to the stories of those who struggled with alcoholism, and later did his dissertation on problem drinking. Through studies conducted from 1973 to 1983 Miller’s findings indicated that individuals undergoing therapy sessions to treat their alcoholism showed the same levels of improvement as individuals working through treatment on their own. Therapy didn’t seem to have any impact.

Intrigued by this finding, Miller took a closer look at the therapists themselves. What he found was that there were actually very effective therapists in addition to very ineffective therapists. By combining them in the data, the impression was given that therapy had been ineffective for treating alcoholism, when in reality therapy had only been ineffective for those with ineffective therapists. Those individuals whose treatment sessions involved effective therapists showed considerable improvement, much more than those who had gone home with a book. The difference was empathy.

Based on these findings, Miller could soon predict client outcomes based on how well a therapist listened, and that therapist’s level of interest in what was said. Miller had discovered hard data connecting higher levels of empathy with greater effectiveness as counselors.

On a sabbatical in Norway, young psychologists at an alcoholism hospital came to William Miller to role-play their difficult cases. As these psychologists questioned Miller on his approach to dealing with significant resistance, Miller verbalized his empathic decision-making process for the first time. He called it Motivational Interviewing.

(Taken from Dr. William Miller’s address, “Motivational Interviewing: Facilitating Change Across Boundaries” to Columbia University Teacher’s College, March 6, 2009 at the Fourth Annual Health Disparities Conference.)


Additional Study Material

Use this material if you would like to learn more about Motivational Interviewing.

  • Read and study Chapter 2 (“Foundations of MI,” 7–29) of Building Motivational Interviewing Skills: a Practitioner Workbook (2009) by David B. Rosengren.
  • Read “Mastering Positive Coaching” by Jennifer Reintjes and Tim Gould, In Deseret Employment 1st Quarter 2015 Update.